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		<title>By: Fronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dixie,

Your comments are right on point as well. Also, I have to agree with your assessment of most of the council members&#039;reaction to the grieving friends, relatives, and co-workers of Sgt. Neil Gunn, Sr. 

The only council member who seemed to be truly touched by Sgt. Gunn&#039;s tragic suicide and the grief of those who knew him was Dr.Gordon.

And yes, all the council members showed considerable patience with those on both side of the cat declaw controversy last Tueday night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dixie,</p>
<p>Your comments are right on point as well. Also, I have to agree with your assessment of most of the council members&#8217;reaction to the grieving friends, relatives, and co-workers of Sgt. Neil Gunn, Sr. </p>
<p>The only council member who seemed to be truly touched by Sgt. Gunn&#8217;s tragic suicide and the grief of those who knew him was Dr.Gordon.</p>
<p>And yes, all the council members showed considerable patience with those on both side of the cat declaw controversy last Tueday night.</p>
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		<title>By: DixieFlyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DixieFlyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the best on point comments lately.

The money being spent has yet to be accounted for.
They won&#039;t even clearly define the roles to be played, by whom and at what cost.
Anja says &#039;wait for the Reader&#039;s Digest version&#039;!!
JESS says &#039;It&#039;ll be years and years&#039;--for what??
&#039;Oh, we can&#039;t tell you thaaaattt&#039;

As for the Police Commission, their letter to the City Council was intercepted by staff.  After a prolonged delay, it finally reached the parties addressed to.

While Mr. Etter was trying to get items on future agendas, another Elise by name, commented that she couldn&#039;t support placing Etter&#039;s items on a future agenda because her items were &quot;more important&quot;.

Then (drum roll, please)she recommended they all check out the marvelous Web site provided by GOLONSKI.

The web site just happpppened to be run by MR BOBB!!!
The same Bobb-and-Weaver magically hired, in secret by the City Council at GOLONSKI&#039;s urging.

GOALS, OBJECTIVES,  TIMELINES and LEADERSHIP, someday,maybe.

The outreach meetings were not as &#039;important&#039;.Right Dave, Whatever you say Dave, &#039;We&#039;re listening carefully&quot;.

When the Chamber filled with grieving Cops and their families, ANJA called them &quot;vigilanties&quot;

When the out-of-town cat folks showed up, they were welcomed with open arms.

Another transparent effort to draw attention away from the MESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the best on point comments lately.</p>
<p>The money being spent has yet to be accounted for.<br />
They won&#8217;t even clearly define the roles to be played, by whom and at what cost.<br />
Anja says &#8216;wait for the Reader&#8217;s Digest version&#8217;!!<br />
JESS says &#8216;It&#8217;ll be years and years&#8217;&#8211;for what??<br />
&#8216;Oh, we can&#8217;t tell you thaaaattt&#8217;</p>
<p>As for the Police Commission, their letter to the City Council was intercepted by staff.  After a prolonged delay, it finally reached the parties addressed to.</p>
<p>While Mr. Etter was trying to get items on future agendas, another Elise by name, commented that she couldn&#8217;t support placing Etter&#8217;s items on a future agenda because her items were &#8220;more important&#8221;.</p>
<p>Then (drum roll, please)she recommended they all check out the marvelous Web site provided by GOLONSKI.</p>
<p>The web site just happpppened to be run by MR BOBB!!!<br />
The same Bobb-and-Weaver magically hired, in secret by the City Council at GOLONSKI&#8217;s urging.</p>
<p>GOALS, OBJECTIVES,  TIMELINES and LEADERSHIP, someday,maybe.</p>
<p>The outreach meetings were not as &#8216;important&#8217;.Right Dave, Whatever you say Dave, &#8216;We&#8217;re listening carefully&#8221;.</p>
<p>When the Chamber filled with grieving Cops and their families, ANJA called them &#8220;vigilanties&#8221;</p>
<p>When the out-of-town cat folks showed up, they were welcomed with open arms.</p>
<p>Another transparent effort to draw attention away from the MESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Fronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eileen,

I&#039;m concerned as well that the council seems to be hiring expense lawyers to prepare a long drawn-out defense. The goal should be to deal fairly and quickly with those lawsuits --- that would save the city money. Our money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eileen,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned as well that the council seems to be hiring expense lawyers to prepare a long drawn-out defense. The goal should be to deal fairly and quickly with those lawsuits &#8212; that would save the city money. Our money.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well most of us average citizens just don&#039;t understand how some council members can be so concerned with cat toe nails and so unconcerned about human beings and civil rights.

They hire more attorneys to defend themselves at our expense and the police commission is a total waste of time if they want to stroll as you said Fronnie Lewis. That&#039;s the problem they have been strolling for a long time now and it&#039;s time for change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well most of us average citizens just don&#8217;t understand how some council members can be so concerned with cat toe nails and so unconcerned about human beings and civil rights.</p>
<p>They hire more attorneys to defend themselves at our expense and the police commission is a total waste of time if they want to stroll as you said Fronnie Lewis. That&#8217;s the problem they have been strolling for a long time now and it&#8217;s time for change.</p>
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		<title>By: Fronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim C,

I agree, Commissioner Etter is fired up and eager to get busy. While Etter wants to sprint, some of the other commissioners seem to want to stroll.

Etter argues for townhall meetings to hear public concerns, while other commissioners are focused on things like what order to list items on their agenda. To be effective, they need to get in sync.

As for the two high-profile attorneys hired by the city --- I&#039;m not clear on their roles. 

Buzzie9,

I see your point. I agree with you, the council took swift action to protect cats. Somehow that was clearer to them than what needs to be done NOW to protect Burbank citizens in light of the police department lawsuits, scandal, and problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim C,</p>
<p>I agree, Commissioner Etter is fired up and eager to get busy. While Etter wants to sprint, some of the other commissioners seem to want to stroll.</p>
<p>Etter argues for townhall meetings to hear public concerns, while other commissioners are focused on things like what order to list items on their agenda. To be effective, they need to get in sync.</p>
<p>As for the two high-profile attorneys hired by the city &#8212; I&#8217;m not clear on their roles. </p>
<p>Buzzie9,</p>
<p>I see your point. I agree with you, the council took swift action to protect cats. Somehow that was clearer to them than what needs to be done NOW to protect Burbank citizens in light of the police department lawsuits, scandal, and problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzie9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzie9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cat decalaw thing tells me that the city can concentrate when they want to. Way sad they can do it to protect cats but not to protect people. Oh wait! Maybe they can get their votes next time around from cats. What&#039;s next a bill called voting rights for cats, authored by the vice mayor and seconded by Talamantes ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cat decalaw thing tells me that the city can concentrate when they want to. Way sad they can do it to protect cats but not to protect people. Oh wait! Maybe they can get their votes next time around from cats. What&#8217;s next a bill called voting rights for cats, authored by the vice mayor and seconded by Talamantes ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Etter might be a little happier if the PC had some kind of specific duties spelled out, so that they could do something.

By the way, the city just hired some more high-priced prestige people to help them with their BPD cases:

http://www.ci.burbank.ca.us/index.aspx?page=25&amp;recordid=193&amp;returnURL=%2findex.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etter might be a little happier if the PC had some kind of specific duties spelled out, so that they could do something.</p>
<p>By the way, the city just hired some more high-priced prestige people to help them with their BPD cases:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ci.burbank.ca.us/index.aspx?page=25&#038;recordid=193&#038;returnURL=%2findex.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ci.burbank.ca.us/index.aspx?page=25&#038;recordid=193&#038;returnURL=%2findex.aspx</a></p>
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