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Burbank Mayor Gary Bric, his restaurant, & those trash talking e-mails

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I don’t know if Burbank Mayor Gary Bric plays any street basketball, but it’s pretty clear he can trash talk. Earlier in the week, I popped over to Jim Carlile’s Burbank blog and discovered a post from last Tuesday, June 30 about some caustic e-mails he got from the mayor. The town is abuzz with chatter about these e-mail zingers.

Mayor Bric apparently got steamed under the collar after reading one of Carlile’s letters in the Mailbag section of The Burbank Leader newspaper. Here’s a sampling of the mayor’s e-mails to Carlile.

“Jim or may I call you Jimmy like your mommy probably did. Never heard back from you and even left you a phone message, you do return calls don’t you. I’ll forward this to Chris at the Burbank Leader so next time you submit a letter to the “MAILBAG” they can get additional info on you and we can find out more about you. Look forward to hearing and meeting with you, I won’t need much of your time, trust me.. Have a nice day.”  Your friend Mayor Gary Bric 6/24/09.

“Hope mommy didn’t take your computer away, still haven’t heard back from you. Your quite the letter writer with WORD PRESS.COM. Are you still having problems sleeping at night, please let me help you with your problem (s), I’m their for you pal.” Your friend Gary.

“…  Don’t forget let’s hook up for coffee one morning, I’ll make you some hot chocolate. Don’t know if I told you but I’m learning more and more about you every day, can’t wait till the reader’s at the Leader learn about you, any skeleton’s in your closet old pal, old buddy. Health and happiness always.” Your friend Gary.

You know, it sounds like the Burbank mayor is threatening to “out” this Burbank Blogger. Gee, what happened to free speech? Also, is this really the kind of conduct you expect from a top city official?  The two men have never met face to face. From the vinegar in these e-mails, I guess one can understand why Carlile hasn’t accept the mayor’s invite for a coffee date.

Meanwhile, Carlile tells me he’s taking this e-mail barrage from Bric very seriously:”In all my years of city-watching, this is the first time I have ever heard of a Burbank resident being threatened by the mayor because of protected activities like ‘letters to the editor.’ And threaten me Bric did– he clearly stated that he was going to get the Leader to smear me because of my criticisms, and twice he also physically threatened me. First he claimed that if I was having a hard time sleeping at night, he would help me get to sleep– which sounds like a line in a Humphrey Bogart movie, right before they throw him in the trunk of a car.”

Carlile had a letter to the editor published in The Burbank Leader on June 20, 2009 and that appears to be the one that made Bric flip-out. In his letter, Carlile takes the Burbank City Council to task for its decision to remove newly-appointed police commissioner John Brady, allegedly because Brady is on probation for a DUI. Carlile’s letter dishes out some specific criticisms of Council Members Gary Bric and Anja Reinke for their involvement in Brady’s ouster.

If Bric thought his e-mails would silence Carlile’s well he was wrong. Carlile posted another story about the mayor on Wednesday, July first and it’s a doozy. Carlile points out that Bric’s restaurant doesn’t really have a Burbank address. It’s actually in Sun Valley. The website for Gary Bric’s Ramp claims the restaurant is Burbank’s #1 steakhouse. The site lists the address as 7730 North Hollywood Way, Burbank 91505.

Carlile is not the only one who has noticed this discrepancy. Apparently some city business owners have been complaining for a while, because Bric’s restaurant has been allowed to enter The Burbank Leader’s “Best of Burbank” contest. The Ramp restaurant is not the only business pretending to be in Burbank, but it’s probably the most high profile offender because, you guessed it, the owner is the mayor of Burbank!

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84 Responses to Burbank Mayor Gary Bric, his restaurant, & those trash talking e-mails

  1. Pat Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:00 pm #

    I read the emails over on Jim Carlile’s site and was amazed at what a snide tone Mr. Bric takes in them. Not to mention some not-so-veiled threats. Another thing that struck me is that he could use a proofreader. Aside from not using question marks at the end of questions, he should be clued in on the use of the apostrophe. And a few other things. These errors leaped out at me from his emails:
    ***************
    “Your quite the letter writer…”
    “I’m their for you pal.”
    “…there was only about 250 people at it.”
    “…can’t wait till the reader’s at the Leader learn about you, any skeleton’s in your closet old pal, old buddy.”

    ****************

    Is this the kind of conduct, not to mention the kind of English, that we should expect from our Mayor? I’d say not.

  2. Fronnie Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:28 pm #

    Pat,

    I was surprised at the number of errors in the mayor’s short e-mails, too. However, the tone and the threats are what really grabbed my attention. Clearly, Mayor Bric demonstrated poor judgment by sending those e-mails.

    Everyone,

    Please note, the comments system on my blog still has a few glitches. Your comments will publish slower than usual. Sorry for the delay. I’m trying to get the problem fixed.

  3. Dan Friday, July 3, 2009 at 4:46 pm #

    The mayor has no class from the look of the emails he sends. Someone should ask to see all the emails he has sent as Mayor of Burbank. Something tells me these are just a few examples of how he speaks behind the scene as our Mayor. How did they make him mayor anyway ?

  4. eddie Friday, July 3, 2009 at 5:08 pm #

    It sounds to me like the Mayor doesn’t only have a DUI issue it sounds like he might have anger issues as well. This is the same guy who thought John Brady would be an embarassment to the city ?

  5. Carma Friday, July 3, 2009 at 6:00 pm #

    The Mayor sounds like he had a few at the Ramp before he wrote those emails! This goes to show you the real tone of the leadership behind all the current crisis in Burbank.

    God help us all! I wonder if Reinke would approve. She was all fired up about “threats” by Brady?

  6. Ryan C Saturday, July 4, 2009 at 7:35 pm #

    You really have to hand it to Gary Bric. He got a low cost piece of real estate outside of Burbank and then got the Burbank press to rate it best hamburger in Burbank and best steak house in Burbank, Can we spell false advertising when the joint is not even in Burbank, hey what’s a little location technicality. Maybe as Mayor he can test the waters and see how Los Angeles feels about giving up those Sun Valley addresses that have a Burbank zip code, after all they have a Burbank mailing address right ?

  7. Carol Saturday, July 4, 2009 at 9:24 pm #

    You know for a long time I did think the mayors Gary Brics Ramp was located in Burbank because it always won best of Burbank. Then a couple of years ago I found out actually being in Burbank is not required to be best of Burbank. Is his resturant bar also in the Burbank Chamber of Commerce ? I do think Woodbury College is in our chamber of commerce and if they are not in Burbank either what is the problem with these people anyway ?

  8. CS Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 2:44 am #

    Wow – so much Bric bashing – but do you really know the man? I have met with him many times through my business dealings and he goes OVERBOARD to do the right thing. I have seen him numerous times been offered something for a discount or free and EVERY TIME he respectably will say no and pays full price. He is a straight shooter and not a professional politician. I did not know him until he became vice mayor so I have nothing else to compare him to before he joined the council. There is a responsibility when you write or publish something, and I feel what was published in the Leader was only allowed to run there to commit controversy, because the facts don’t really add up. The Leader will do anything to try and be relevant again as they struggle under the bankruptcy of the LA Times, which will never happen as long as they ave no Burbank presence themselves. Buy the Daily Review, change its name to the Leader, go from 6 days a week to 2, then move all of your operations out of the city. Then when you sniff some kind of story that some gadfly wants to yell out – run it. This is a paper that just ‘broke’ the Disney pollution story, but because of the high turnover, did not realize they published the SAME story 3 years ago and nothing had changed. Duh! Why do people in Burbank over react so much when 10 people continue to stand up and smear people and the city? There are 99,000 others who really don’t care about those 10. As far as where The Ramp is located, Gary Bric has never claimed once that it is IN Burbank, it does has a Burbank mailing address. Cabrini Condos are NOT in Burbank, Woodbury is NOT in Burbank (although a small sliver of the corner of the land is), the Equestrian Center is NOT in Burbank, and the new Armenian Church being built next to Hill Street Deli is NOT in Burbank. You stand on their property and call the police and in every situation – you get LAPD, not Burbank. Yet, most people and of course, The Leader says they ARE IN Burbank, so then it must be true. I saw that in the Best Burger in Burbank, the article has an asterisk that says, Burbank Mailing Address, seems pretty up front to me. Bottom line, stop the Bric Bashing until you talk to him personally. He is not hard to talk to or find, you will see him at any city event or just stop by his restaurant. Form your own opinion, stop listening to others, probably including myself.

  9. Carma Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 3:13 pm #

    CS,

    Interesting comment and very admirable. But it sounds like you are tuning in a month late. The issue isn’t Bric’s silly steak house, it’s his actions. Last time I checked actions speak louder than words.

    Bric is for the most a “good” guy. I think what everyone is trying to vent is that he is a bad leader. This all started with his failure to truthfully handle the police criminal investigations and the several lawsuits facing the city. Bric continues to support a corrupt city attorney and police chief. Bric’s actions then came into question with his speech about alcoholism when he voted to can John Brady from the police commission. Again siding with the city attorney.

    Recently, Bric is culpable in covering up of the termination of the fire chief. Bric is quoted in the leader verifying that it was only a “health” issue. In fact it is common knowledge that Chief Panisini was released for fraud and nepotistic complaints. The city deemed it neccessary to avoid another costly scandal.

    Once again with the Coach Sandoval issue. Bric decides to let a lying city attorney file criminal charges against the coach for a “brush against”. Come on…there is no crying in baseball!

    Most recently, Bric is under fire for those ridiculous emails that are almost unbelievable. Read them and tell me this guy doesn’t have some anger issues with “mommy”.

    I am not one to judge until I see the evidence. In the police cases, the John Brady case, the fire chief, and the emails, I have seen the evidence! He needs help fast. The city of Burbank is facing a mountain of liability and with leaders like this Burbank is going to lose.

  10. Fronnie Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 3:40 pm #

    CS & Carma,

    Mayor Bric comes across as a nice guy to me as well. Still, I get the impression from some of his actions that he does not realize the seriousness of being mayor and the additional responsibilities that go along with the job.

  11. Ryan Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm #

    CS

    The asterisk only came after people complained that the best burger place in Burbank IS NOT in Burbank. Now since there is also a category for best burger places outside of Burbank I will add that the asterisk is not only misleading and dishonest it requires a different sub category. The category it requires is a simple asterisk while the category is right there for the place and it’s Best Burger Place outside of Burbank. I’d say honesty calls for the owner of the Ramp to call up and say hey I am not some asterisk I’m the Best outside of Burbank but don’t hold your breath because there is always hope people won’t notioe the silly little asterisk anyway.

  12. Frannie Q. Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 9:21 pm #

    GOOD FOR GARY!I don’t think he went far enough! I support Gary Bric 100%

  13. Jim Carlile Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 10:50 pm #

    Gary Bric repeatedly says in his newspaper ads and in the phone book that his restaurant is in Burbank. I’m not sure what other people think it means when a street address is given as “Burbank 91505,” but to everyone I know, that’s a claim to a Burbank location.

    Woodbury College does the same thing. They think that if they cite the zip code, they can then cite “Burbank” as part of the address. But it’s a misrepresentation.

    What got me fascinated about this story is the thought of what would happen if Dr. Gordon’s optical business were located a half-mile away in North Hollywood. I wonder if his critics would be equally sanguine every time Gordon went around referring to himself as a Burbank businessman. I doubt it.

    The Leader’s attempt to jump hoops around this problem is pretty funny. A qualifying asterisk doesn’t suddenly make a non-Burbank location part of Burbank. If a North Hollywood business decided to get a Burbank P.O. box, would that give them a Burbank “mailing address” too? Why not?

    The Leader, by the way, was bought from Copley by another company previous to the Times ownership. I believe it was they who changed its name and went twice-weekly. It was later sold it to the Times Community News group.

  14. smtena Monday, July 6, 2009 at 1:51 pm #

    Well people can support whoever and whatever they want it’s a free country but don’t forget some people support legalized prostitution as well.

    As for Gary Bric I would personally say he began the trashing with his emails so if he is unable to take the heat he really never belonged in the kitchen.

    Personally I believe he is and will prove to be a complete embarassment for the city of Burbank.

  15. flippification Monday, July 6, 2009 at 1:56 pm #

    The sad truth is that some people do believe that Mr Brics Bar is in Burbank which means some people go there and believe they are spending their money in Burbank. What really happens is the money is spent outside of Burbank and lost to the Burbank economy.

    I guess I should be shocked at the emails from the mayor but somehow I am not. Sure he looks like a ‘nice guy’ but we all know appearances can be very deceiving. From the tome of the emails, well it sounds to me like things like the bar being in Burbank are very important to the mayor which is exactly why they are a problem.

  16. arman Monday, July 6, 2009 at 1:58 pm #

    I looked at it looks to me like it’s advertised as being in Burbank.

    http://www.garybricsramp.com/

    ps the Armenian Church is in Burbank!

  17. Fronnie Monday, July 6, 2009 at 3:20 pm #

    Everyone,

    What bothers me most about the Gary Bric’s Ramp location controversy is that it appears to be a conscious effort to deceive people. There are benefits to being a Burbank business — and Gary Bric clearly wants to enjoy those benefits — even though his restaurant is in Sun Valley.

    Some other Sun Valley businesses might want to follow Bric’s lead. Gee, I wonder how the Burbank City Council would react to a slew of Sun Valley businesses suddenly claiming ownership of the Burbank name?

  18. Carma Monday, July 6, 2009 at 4:43 pm #

    I am afraid to email Bric and tell him to fix the address error, but if he gets my email address…look out!

    There are a terrible lot of lies going about the world, and the worst of it is that half of them are true. – WINSTON CHURCHILL

  19. buzzie9 Tuesday, July 7, 2009 at 10:56 am #

    Carma maybe the spam box was invented the day Mayor Bric discovered the internet!

  20. s Wednesday, July 8, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

    To all of you people that really need a life..Gary Bric has never claimed that The Ramp was in Burbank. It is a mailing address only,but if you use your GPS in the car it shows it being in Burbank.Burbank PD doesen’t respond, Foothill does,it used to be N Hollywood until Jan of 2009. Have any of you people that don’t have a life ever looked to see what Gary has donated the city of Burbank e.g.. BTAC, Boys & Girls Club,(500.00 to Dodger nite to send a kid to a game that would probably never be able to) Family Service, The Colony.Get a life people, I would like to see what you have done for the city of Burbank,except complain about the council. One blogger says Mr. Bric has a drinking problem and is in denial, don’t think so. Attend any function in Burbank and Gary is their in support of that fundraiser. Check it out yourself, contact these various Non Profits. My husband and I try to attend as many of these functions as possible, never see Dr. Gordon in attendance, and finally to this Carlile guy, take the Mayor up on his offer for coffee, he won’t bite and after spending some time with him I guarantee he will have a different opinion of him. I’m proud to live in Burbank, thanks Mayor for all you do, hope these habitual complainers don’t get you down. Like you said at a Council Meeting a couple of months back I think to that guy named Schad, “You can come uo week after week and chastise me, as long as you don’t bad mouth my wife or two dogs, we’ll get along just fine”, the Mayors a class act.

  21. Jim Carlile Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 4:19 am #

    I’m curious what it would take to convince Bric defenders that he claims his business is in Burbank? I guess written evidence like newspaper ads, pages in the phone book, citations of contest wins or a website that talks about his No. 1 Burbank win don’t count for anything.

    How can you reason with people who look at something that’s painted blue and then claim that it’s not blue at all, that it’s red, and that you’re crazy to boot? You can’t.

    Gary Bric’s continued misrepresentation about Burbank is the least of his problems. Except for Gordon, the entire council is equally loopy– they actually think it’s perfectly OK for city employees to go to Vegas and stay at the Bellagio and order alcoholic drinks at taxpayer expense. How did this ever happen around here, and what kind of perverse mentality actually defends this kind of conduct?

  22. s Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:53 am #

    Hey Carlile guy, looks like you only talk about about the address conflict, nothing else. It seems like you contend that if the Ramp Restaurant was listed as Sun Valley with I think the zip being 91352, the guy would be ok, send a letter and see if it is delivered or returned, I’m betting it’s returned as “UNDELIVERABlE” because the address will be wrong, try the same thing to someone that lives in “CABRINI”, same result. His ad in the Burbank Times says, Burbank mailing address, what more do you want this guy to due. Question? Since no one knows who you are, when are you going to come out of the closet and meet with Mr. Bric?. What have you done in support of the Non Profits and finally how many times have you applied for one of those Boards or Commissions?. I have and the Mayor voted for one of the other applicants, I didn’t take it personally and if he runs again in 2009, I’ll vote for him again. You can go back to your closet now.

  23. s Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:36 am #

    Since Carlile and Fronnie Lewis are quite the investigative reporters, how about updating us about Gordons involvement in the 2007 election and Will Rogers accusations that he provided his mailing list from his business for the hit piece on Bric and Reinke. Let me get this straight, he’s an eye doctor and provides his mailing list to help support the Berlin’s, candidates that he publicly supported, doesn’t than make it a HIPPA Violation or do you choose not to comment on that. What was it two or three patients came forward and said that one wasn’t a registered voter and two kids ( patients of Gordons ) got the flyer, wonder how that happened. Would love to see Mr. Carlile research that and send his comments to the Burbank Leader “MAILBAG”. If Gordon chooses not to comment on it, check with his Chief of Staff, David Piroli, maybe he can provide the info you will looking for.

  24. Fronnie Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:12 am #

    s,

    If you drop over to Jim Carlile’s blog http://semichorus.wordpress.com/
    you will see that he talks about more than Gary Bric’s restaurant address controversy.

    No one is putting down the good deeds Gary Bric has done in Burbank. Clearly, you are willing to overlook the Ramp address discrepancy because of these good deeds and the fact that you like the mayor, others are not.

    What more should Bric do about this address situation? Like the ad in the Burbank Times, Bric should state on the restaurant website and everywhere else —the Burbank address IS A MAILING ADDRESS.

    Also, Burbank citizens are allowed to have opinions and speak their minds about city government — even if they don’t attend city council meetings or have served on a board or a commission.

    Oh, about that invite to coffee Bric e-mailed to Carlile. The tone of Bric’s e-mails suggested it was not going to be a pleasant get together so I cannot really blame Carlile for not jumping at the offer.

  25. bf Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:51 am #

    Hey S

    How about making public Gary Brics tax statements so we all can see if these great works of charity are claimed as business deductions. The Ramp is a business and attending and giving to the very events you mention are called ADVERTISING and they are DEDUCTIBLE.

    I always love it when a business gets its advertising pr using a few charities and then acts like it can do no wrong because it was oh so GENEROUS.

    I might buy it ifthe business doesn’t calculate the generosity for deductions and use them to advertise but hey we have to see some tax returns to know that one now don’t we.

  26. bf Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 10:58 am #

    What should the mayor do about the address situation ?

    First let’s be honest he doesn’t provide mail out orders so maybe since it’s not a mail order business he needs to just state it’s in Sun Valley and dump the mailing address idea all together.

    See he makes a big deal out of his mailing address and so does S. S goes on and on if you address and mail something to the Ramp as Sun Valley it won’t get delivered. But the Ramp advertising is not for you to mail anything, it’s for you to drive there and pay to eat and drink. So a mailing address has nothing to do with anything unless you are trying to be deceptive and lead people to believe they are spending their hard earned dollars in Burbank.

    The Ramp has played mailing address games for years but the truth is who mails their food orders into the Ramp – NO ONE!

  27. Jake F Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:03 am #

    S says
    I didn’t take it personally and if he runs again in 2009, I’ll vote for him again.

    I say
    If Mayor Bric plans to run again in 2009 he better get busy the year is almost over and as far as I can tell there is no Burbank election coming in 2009 so what is Mayor Bric planning to run for in 2009.

    Looks to me like S is way behind in his/her facts and factual data here. I agree a mailing address has nothing to do with anywthing it’s location,location,location and in this case location is City of Los Angeles.

  28. Ann Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:11 am #

    For me the address of the resturant makes no difference however the emails do make a difference. The emails are inappropriate for the mayor to write and hardly show him to be a class act. The emails written by Mayor Bric are an embarassment to the entire city as they are an act of intollerance and pettiness. When a person becomes Mayor that person must be held to a higher standard.

  29. Ryan C Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:28 am #

    Interesting discussion here and it whether you realized it or not it exposes one of Burbanks dirty little secrets.

    The concept here is that if you get on some board or commission, attend charity events and donate to charities you are one of Burbank’s fine elite’s and can do no wrong.

    Let’s look into that from the standpoint of our mayor.

    Gary Bric, if you recall was on the traffic and transportation committee. He was there as traffic became congested and intersections failed to be synchronized. Remember the traffic and parking problems people complained about ?

    Gary Bric it sounds like made a point to attend the cahrity events, remember Leader society writer David Laurel writing that Gary was there ?

    Gary Bric gave to fundraisers in Burbank.

    Now think about all of that from another side of the coin. Gary Bric was planning a run for the council. He ran the first time and lost to Todd Campbell if I recall corectly.

    What did Gary Bric do ? He became more involved in the fund raisers and social events.

    I am not sure how attending social events and supporting fundraisers makes one qualified to be a council member much less a mayor but it gets the person support from the Burbank elite as part of the club. It never hits me that people who want a council seat attend things for exposure and support ever really amounts to much more than wanting someting for themself and using everyone to get it.

    That’s one of the dirty little secrets right here in Burbank. Attend charity events, have a blast and get the support of the elite, while the average resident doesn’t even know the elite are meeting and smoozing the plot is being formed and the fix is in.

  30. Arfie1 Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:37 am #

    So what the mayor gave donations to non profits! I could care less. Life is not all about non profits.

  31. Fronnie Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 11:43 am #

    s,

    If it concerns you — you should be the one to write the letter about whatever 2007 election issue you are burning to see in The Burbank Leader “Mailbag.”

    Oh, if you do that, you would have to give your full name not just an initial.

    It seems you are the one would wants to stay in the shadows or in the closet.

  32. V SANOS Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm #

    If I am correct there are over 100,000 people who reside in Burbank. The reasoning used by ‘S’ would lead me to believe that most of them have no voice and no right to express an opinion because most of them have never been on one of the city’s sill boards or attendended one of the family service agencies fundraisers.

    Did S forget that as citizens we are taxed and because we are taxed we all have given donations to that non-profit whether we wanted to or not thanks to the likes of Mayor Bric ?

    Thank you very much S for confirming that we have elected reps who tax us to give our money way and then tell us we have no say and no voice because we didn’t attend the events they did.

  33. Ryan C Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    Fronnie Lewis: Thanks for pointing out that our friend ‘s’ sure wants to tell you and Jim Carlisle what to write about. Seems to me the mayorial emails are current news and ‘s’ wants you to write about something from 2007 ? Maybe ‘s’ could suggest you write about something from 1929 and life in Burbank when the last depression struck the town. Looks to me like ‘s’ utilizes the distraction technique rather than just address the facts.

  34. Arman Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm #

    The dude wanted to be mayor right ? But once he is mayor anybody that has a criticism gets told to get a life. How sweet it is to think you are emperor.

  35. Duck Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 1:30 pm #

    The comments make it clear that Burbank is run by non-profits and you pay to play. Nice democracy we have here. Makes me wonder if elections are even legit here.

  36. dolfin Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 1:50 pm #

    I have been taxed enough in my life time to support everything that I no longer give contributions to anyone. I don’t have anything left to give after the Federal Government takes from me, The State Government takes from me, The County Government takes from me and then the City Government takes what I have left.

    After taking from me, those governments mismanage the money and hands out gifts to who they like. After that I should listen to someone tell me if I don’t give to this or that I have no right to speak up about anything ? Give me a break I don’t need to give because people like you take from me to support every one of your favorite causes and I have no say about it whatsoever, if I dare to speak up about it I am told to be quiet? I find your comments offensive!

  37. the Vampire Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 2:20 pm #

    Defo we are overtaxed and you tell me if we volunteer to do something will that reduce our taxes ? Hell NO, they will reward us with higher utility bills or something. I love it I could be a good person if I attend chairity events and that would make anything else I could do A-ok. What a joke 500 dollar a plate dinners and silent auctions are not exactly designed for the average people anyway.

  38. ellen Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 3:06 pm #

    If this is really what the Mayor of Burbank wrote

    “Jim or may I call you Jimmy like your mommy probably did. Never heard back from you and even left you a phone message, you do return calls don’t you. I’ll forward this to Chris at the Burbank Leader so next time you submit a letter to the “MAILBAG” they can get additional info on you and we can find out more about you. Look forward to hearing and meeting with you, I won’t need much of your time, trust me.. Have a nice day.” Your friend Mayor Gary Bric 6/24/09.

    Then I have a very hard time calling hi a class act he seems more like a thug act to me.

  39. responsibility Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm #

    First, let me say that I haven’t had any problems with Mayor Gary Bric and I think it’s great that he has donated money to nonprofit organizations or attended fundraisers. Personally, I think Gary is a nice person and very civic-minded.

    Second, let’s go back to the emails he allegedly sent to Carlile. While the mayor is an appointed position, the individual is first elected to the Council. Therefore that person is in a position of authority and even more so as mayor. Let’s say those emails are true. The mayor is in a position of authority and he used that position to supposedly “sign” one of those emails as Mayor Gary Bric.

    Do the research. Government officials have been known to criticize and threaten the public for exercising their right to free speech, which might be construed as abuse of power under color of authority. While it isn’t as common as those abuses in law enforcement, it can and does happen.

  40. Intelligent Being Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 5:41 pm #

    First let me say I agree with Responsibility. The fact that Gary Bric signs those emails Mayor Gary Bric means it’s not personal it’s with the full authority of his office as mayor.

    If those emails went to trial and I had to look at them I would have no doubt that they are a threat under the color of authority.

    Bric took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution not to use his power to subvert peoples Consitutional rights.

    Someone said the Mayor is a class act, it all depends on what class you are looking for I guess but for me I want the class that defends the Constitution not the class that believe he is above the Constitution.

  41. Cool chick Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm #

    The topic here is the location of the mayors bar and the emails the mayor wrote.

    On the bar, he should be honest and say it’s in Sun Valley.

    On the emails he should make a public apology and hope no one prosecutes him for issuing threats.

    end of the story

  42. BF Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 7:14 pm #

    Here is the Burbank City Attorney helping the gang of 4 protect the rights of the public in Burbank.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9600a598vM0

  43. s Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 8:01 pm #

    Guess I stirred up a hornets nest, 19 replies and not one response to Dr. Gordon supplying his patient’s list for the hit piece and smear tactic’s in 2007 which constitutes a HIPPA VIOLATION. Wonder why Gordon was not endorsed by the Berlins, hmmm. Sorry about the typo about running in 2009, if Bric had been up for election, the good Doctor would have finished behind him, Golonski, and Talamantes and then he would have been looking from the outside in. Come on guys, especially Carlile and Fronnie, let us know what you know about the HIPPA VIOLATION that Will Rogers refers too, your so up to speed about everything else.

  44. Fronnie Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:06 pm #

    s,

    Since you are so sure there is an update on the 2007 election and as you say the smear tactics, you do the work. You write the story. How’s about on your own blog? I promise to drop over and check it out.

    Oh, and the reason the responses here are about the mayor, his restaurant, and those controversial e-mails is because that’s what the story posted here is about.

    Those issues were being discussed before you arrived.
    And if you will check the list here you will see there are comments from Bric supporters as well as his critics.

    So if you don’t like the discussion, don’t participate.

    This is my blog. I make the rules.

  45. Flippification Thursday, July 9, 2009 at 9:30 pm #

    You know given all the current lawsuits against the city for things like violation of civil rights not to mention all the current legal issues with employee relations I would think that S could find something to bring up that is more recent than 2 years old.

    Even if this thing you keep trying to push to the forefront with Dr Gordon and some hippo you are interested in, let’s face it you are not exactly bringing up sending this hippo off to a cirizen as a threat and signing the hipo as mayor now are you ?

    There are serious issues involving use of force and actions under color of authority and the mayor falls right in with the lot when he emails threats to a citizen and signs them as mayor. My advice is get with current events and leave the hippos at the zoo.

  46. Jim Carlile Friday, July 10, 2009 at 1:50 am #

    Simple name and address citations are mere demographics, and unless a health provider references them with any kind of actual additional health or patient information, it is not a HIPPA violation.

    I’m going to write a little piece about this soon and will cite the law here.

    If Gordon had lent patient addresses with additional notes about conditions or problems– even age– he would have violated HIPPA privacy requirements. This presumes he is even a covered entity in the first place, which might not have been the case.

    I would like to see any OCR complaint that validates this charge against Dr. Gordon. I’ll even write about it. But I suspect that if there was an OCR complaint it was dismissed.

    The reason why the Berlins did not endorse anyone in the last election is because they are completely disgusted with Burbank and don’t want to get involved any more. Can anyone blame them?

    Will Rogers promised a lot of things two years ago in his blog– he also told us that he was going to reveal who was behind that supposedly awful “smear” mailer. He never did, and in fact, he quit his blog right after this promise.

  47. Tamara C Friday, July 10, 2009 at 2:01 am #

    Personally I believe that the Leader improved greatly once they got rid of Rogers. He wasn’t reporting stories he became the stories like with that one female council member and some incident.I remember that one for sure and I believe there were other times he also became the story.

    Phil Berlin was a really great airport commissioner and he did a lot to protect the city from aiport polution.

    I more or less believe that Bric is a friend of the airport and I believe he lives on the hill and could care less about the traffic or noise because he sees it as business for his lounge place and he turns up the music to drown out the noise. It’s about the money for Bric and not about the poor people living near the airport.

  48. responsibility Friday, July 10, 2009 at 2:03 am #

    Just to let you know that HIPPA is actually HIPAA, which stands for: Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996.

  49. s Friday, July 10, 2009 at 2:16 am #

    Had my fun, ruffled some feathers, I guess Fronnie wants to take the ball and doesn’t want me to play anymore, since it’s her blog and she makes the rules, I’ll back off and wait for another game, and Flipoff see ya at the zoo.

  50. s Friday, July 10, 2009 at 2:36 am #

    FINAL FINAL ……… To Mr. Carlile, truly appreciate your candid remarks and to RESPONSIBILTY thank you for correcting me, you are 100% correct, my error.

  51. Charmer Friday, July 10, 2009 at 3:15 am #

    This discussion is interesting. In all honesty I believe that there is both and honesty as well as integrity issue with the mayor of Burbank.

    Watching council meetings he appears to have little if any understanding of anything he does on the council. In these economic times I believe we need real leadership and I am afraid there is no sign of that caliber of leadership from Mayor Bric at all.

    For those who don’t think the times call for a high caliber of leadership I am sure you will see this by the time it’s to late and the city is in a state of disaster. I doubt Mr Bric will find much support or sympathy at that point and that is really sad.

  52. Fronnie Friday, July 10, 2009 at 9:41 am #

    Everyone,

    Good discussion.

    s,

    Apparently you came not to join the discussion, but to disrupt and push your own agenda. By the way, your last two comments have the kind of civil and professional tone that is welcomed on this blog.

  53. BF Friday, July 10, 2009 at 12:01 pm #

    The semichorus blog has a really nifty new story. It’s all about the new Cukoo resturant and the editor of the Burbank Leader hanging out there with none other than the City Attorney. Now this is the same Cukoo resturant that the City Attorney pushed to allow the city council to take over the sidewalk. hmmmm those tweeter messages sure are sweet now aren’t they!
    http://semichorus.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/tweet-tweet/

    Here is the same City Attorney that ‘lunched’ the boss at the Burbank Leader talking about the Cukoo resturant at the council meeting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9600a598vM0

    I agree with the semichorus blog who paid for lunch ? The taxpayers maybe ?

  54. BF Friday, July 10, 2009 at 6:44 pm #

    Here is a highlight of the City Council Meeting and our Mayor Gary Bric
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3J8Lqb7ACE

  55. Carma Friday, July 10, 2009 at 7:48 pm #

    SSSSSSSSSSSS,,

    Boy I can’t believe you are so fired in defending Bric. I think it is clear that anyone is fair game on Fonnie’s blog. If Gordon has done something wrong, hey all I have seen of late is him trying to make up for it.

    SSSSSSS, you want to throw down some juicy information…how is this for “whiner”. Check out Mike Flad and his affair with a city employee that is seen in the council meetings. Since he is going through his divorce, Flad has been distracted from the current events and I am sure he doesn’t take his squeeze to the ramp!

    How about this one, Flad and Reinke keeping the good ol nepotism flowing. Reinke is intramental in creating a city administrative position that Flad hires her daughter to fill. When Flad is asked about the conflict by a council member he replies “Not an issue because she would have got the job anyway.” Hugh?

    Or off course the Fire Chief that nobody wants to talk about! Last I checked everyone in the fire department knows he is not coming back because Flad gave him the boot for scamming the city. I liked the leader article about his “health concerns.” I wish him well!

    And then there is Don Cookoo’s! Have you gone by on a friday? Check tonight…I have seen many members of the city government watering their thirsts and feeding hungers as of late. It is amazing how fast they got the license for sidewalk slinging approved, especially since every other business that has applied for the same hot spot has been denied or opposed.

  56. Member of the SAG Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 1:17 pm #

    Carma,

    Doesn’t Burbank have any regs about sex in the work place or the hiring of relatives or even relatives working under each other’s supervision ?

    It just seems to me like all the ‘nepotism’ should be contrary against rules that are in place. So why are there no rules or why are the rules not enforced if they do exist ?

  57. s Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 10:51 pm #

    God, I had hoped I wouldn’t have to visit this site again because when you have over 100,000 residents, over 50,000 registered voters, your bound to have a dozen people that have nothing better to due then “BITCH”, that love to sit behind a computer and make accusations with no proof and haven’t got the balls to make these statements in Public. Carma or who ever you are says on #9, “I am not one to judge until I see the evidence”, yet states the City Manager is going thru a divorce and has had an affair with a City employee that is seen in the Council Meetings, prove it or do you enjoy making false accusations and just stiiring the pot. The man has a beautiful wife and child and to say something like this, your one sick son of a bitch or is it bastard. Like you say, everyone is fair game on Fronnie’s blog, I wonder if she will chastise you because this blog is only suppose to be about attacking the Restauranter/Mayor. They say the good die young, sure like to see you be the exception to the rule.

  58. Fronnie Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 11:05 pm #

    s,

    This is your last warning. No offensive language on my blog or I will remove your comments. Comments can be controversial, but they must be professional and civil.

    NO ONE is forcing you to visit this site. So either you play by the rules or your comments will be deleted.

    I hope you understand this because I will not give you another warning.

  59. s Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 11:26 pm #

    What offensive language was used ?? Freedom of speech doesn’t pertain to blogs or is just yours, only a question. I want to know if the rules apply to everyone, or just those that echo your feelings.

  60. Fronnie Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 11:36 pm #

    s,

    Don’t play stupid. You did not repeat the offensive words in comment 59… so you know what I’m talking about. Freedom of speech has its limits. Go research that yourself.

    I’ve posted the rules before. The regulars know the rules and abide by them. So should you — if you want your comments to appear on this blog.

  61. s Saturday, July 11, 2009 at 11:59 pm #

    Where would I find what the rules are, sorry I’ve never seen them posted. Also you say freedom of speech has its limits, could you point me in the right direction so I can find out more about it. I’m kind of new at this. I only heard about your blog a couple months back. Heard you wrote for I think the Daily News, are you still working there.

  62. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 12:09 am #

    s,

    In my comment 52 here, I pointed out what is welcomed on this blog as professional and civil by citing two of your comments!!

    I’ve warned you about what is offensive by again citing your own comment. So now you know.

    I’m sure you also know how to Google anything you want to find out.

    I wrote for the valleynews.com website, which was run by the Los Angeles Daily News.

  63. s Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 12:25 am #

    Thank you and maybe you could help me with one thing. I bounce back between you and Jim Carlile’s site and he just posted something about Father Piroli, is this the same David Piroli that attends Council meetings? If so I’m sure that he is one of your loyal bloggers and I can’t ever remember Mr. Bric “EVER” addressing Mr. Piroli in a improper manner, or anyone else that comments at the Oral Communication period of the Meetings. It seems to me that he has a excellent repoir with all the speakers and conducts profesional meetings with an added flair, only my opinion

  64. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 12:33 am #

    s,

    David Piroli has commented on this blog. Father Piroli and David Piroli are one in the same.

  65. Jim Carlile Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 2:35 am #

    Just to note– the bit about David Piroli criticizes Golonski, not Bric. Bric’s been OK on this issue. Golonski insists on rubbing everyone’s face in it.

  66. s Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 8:43 am #

    Jim: I agree with you, I didn’t think Bric ever critized anyone let alone Piroli, you did change the wording on your blog because originally you said refering to Bric, ” not much “.

  67. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 10:47 am #

    Jim & s,

    I have been bothered by Councilman Dave Golonski repeatedly referring to David Piroli as “Father Piroli.”

    I did not know the story behind it until I read Jim’s recent blog post. Nice post, Jim.

  68. s Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 11:47 am #

    I’m some what new to the City, less than 10 years, I find it hard to believe that Fronnie had no clue about Golonski’s reason for calling him FATHER PIROLI, wow.

  69. Carma Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 12:15 pm #

    SSSS,

    Sounds like you might have some issues with the truth. I challenge you to prove that I am wrong. I can tell you this, we will see who is making false accusations.

    Unlike you, I think it is important to embrace the truth, no matter how much it pains us. I don’t make accusations…I am reporting facts that are common knowledge to insiders to the city secrets. I would give you the woman’s name except she is not the subject of poor judgement. Nor is she a public official like Mr. Flad.

    I read your blog entries it is evident that you are here to support the mayor. It is ironic that you typed “this blog was only to be about attacking the restaurant/Mayor.” Two problems with your flawed logic. It is my understanding that none of Fronnie’s blogs are about “attacking” anyone. Secondly, Sir, your the one who brought up David Gordon and called us all whiners!

    Your entries have the same angry tone that Bric’s emails do. However, I take exception to the fact that you hope that I “die young”. That is not possible since I consider myself neither good nor young. Just informed more than you!:)

  70. Eileen C Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 12:45 pm #

    I most certainly agree Miss Lewis writes very well and never attacks anyone from my observations. If someone feels that facts and discussion of facts are an attack that would seem to indicate that there is something to hide.

    Is Mayor Bric making any claims that his resturant never was rated best in Burbank or that he never wrote these emails this topic is about ? If that is so I would like to hear about it.

  71. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 1:21 pm #

    s,

    You have a lot of misconceptions. Just because I run a blog and I have a media background, doesn’t mean I know all the details of every issue and story about Burbank and its residents. I don’t think anyone can claim to know it all.

    So I’m surprised that you find it hard to believe that I did not know the details of the “Father Piroli” story.

  72. Johnny Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 6:45 pm #

    Has the cat named Kitty Pants been returned to her home yet ? I am guessing that after Vice Mayor Reinke and Councilman Golosnky said they would take care of that the cat is back with the owners again ?

    There has been no news so I am really wondering if the cat has been rescued and returned home.

  73. Tomasa Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 7:56 pm #

    When I heard Council Woman Reinke say she would help that lady get her cat back I shook my head because I really didn’t believe she would help anyone do anything at all. Sorry just my feeling about her.

  74. Dolfin Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 8:13 pm #

    If the family that lost the cat didn’t get it back yet maybe Mayor Bric could write an email the people who have the cat and get it back ?

  75. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 8:46 pm #

    Everyone,

    I do not have a real update on Kitty Pants. A few days ago, I got an e-mail from one of the owners, Amy, and she was still pretty positive.

    However, if Kitty Pants had been returned I’m sure we would all be hearing about it.

  76. Doberman Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 8:53 pm #

    If they didn’t get their cat back yet chances are slim to none they ever will. The kitty pants caper is another city screw up so expect the city to blame the owners.

  77. Donna Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 9:20 pm #

    I have a question ??

    Can anyone tell me if it has been confirmed that the mayor wrote the childish emails that this discussion is really all about ?

    If he did they sure do not speak well of our mayor or those of us who made the mistake of voting for him. They are very childish. Childish is the kindest comment I can make about the emails.

  78. Fronnie Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 11:11 pm #

    Donna,

    I have not heard the mayor deny those trash-talking e-mails.

    The official reaction has been silence. Also, remember the writer of the e-mails sent copies to others –including The Leader. So it may be hard for the mayor to pretend he didn’t do it.

  79. ERG Sunday, July 12, 2009 at 11:53 pm #

    If thats true (and I don’t doubt you at all) then Mayor Bric must have been so proud of his silly little emails that he just had to share.

    Somebody buy the mayor a bottle of finger paint and let him hang his art up at the library.

  80. Jim Carlile Monday, July 13, 2009 at 3:42 am #

    I was hesitant at first to post the Piroli story because I wasn’t sure how much was known of this in town. But awhile back some commenters at another site made false accusations against him that alluded to the situation, and since Golonski has been deliberately referencing it lately, I thought it was time to say something.

    I’m baffled why G’ started doing this last year, because Piroli has been very mild these days.

    You’re right s’, after I read your comment I changed the wording because it gave the false impression that Bric was a cohort here and he is not.

  81. Carma Monday, July 13, 2009 at 11:48 am #

    In Burbank it seems like Silence = Guilt, “No comment” means it happened, and “Absolutely not” = I did it.

  82. ERG Monday, July 13, 2009 at 12:54 pm #

    Add one to that list Carma. After the last say 4 mayors it looks like being mayor is also a sure sign of guilt. Maybe being guilty gets you elected to the position or something.

  83. Ricardo Monday, July 13, 2009 at 3:10 pm #

    Maybe the Mayor and the Vice Mayor could sit and fingerpaint and the city could sell their artwork to balance the budget. I wonder if anyone would buy an original Bric or Reinke painting ?

  84. Hanh Denney Sunday, February 7, 2010 at 11:49 pm #

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