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The Burbank City Council, Falun Gong, and a new lawsuit against the city

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A human rights issue in China stirred up the Burbank City Council meeting last night. I was there for the first public comments section and heard some passionate supporters of the Chinese health and spiritual movement Falun Gong speak out. They attempted to bear witness to the persecution of the practice by China, which considers Falun Gong a cult.

During a 10 year crackdown, thousands of Falun Gong devotees reportedly have been killed, tortured or thrown into jails or labor camps. One of the speakers, Yi-Yuan Chang, claims Falun Gong is practiced in more than 100 countries, including the U.S. — and specifically in Van Nuys.

What the speakers hoped to do was drum up support for the Falun Gong victims in China and backing for the U.S. House of Representatives House Resolution 605 which recognizes the persecution and calls for an end to the campaign. Instead, they were reminded by Mayor Gary Bric several times that the focus of public comments should be Burbank City business. While they got a sympathetic response from Vice-Mayor Anja Reinke, Councilman Dave Golonski insisted their cause was outside the parameters of Burbank city business.

Meanwhile, the city council reacted more positively to a group of South Victory Boulevard merchants. The council members offered words of encouragement to the merchants who returned for a second week to complain about the loss of curbside parking and the damaging effect that is having on their businesses. Again, Burbank Traffic Engineer Ken Johnson agreed to meet with the business owners to try to come up with a solution.

 What most of the merchants want is for the South Victory and West Alameda Avenue intersection to be changed back to the way it was, something city officials seems reluctant to do at this point. Apparently the traffic changes, including a second turn lane, were the result of a 1997 agreement, which was not revisited before being implemented.

Also, activist Mike Nolan appeared before the city council again and requested new information on the police department:”How many police personnel are on administrative leave?” Nolan wanted to know how much money the city is shelling out for those leaves. Later, Senior Assistant City Attorney Terry Stevenson would say only statistics could be released to Nolan. That means no names of officers.

Oh, there’s another development in that controversial case of those so-called leaked personnel files and documents of former Burbank Police Detective Chris Dunn. Yesterday Dunn’s attorney announced in a press release the filing of a lawsuit against the city. Jim Carlile broke the story on his blog.

The lawyer’s press release says Dunn has “…  filed a detailed complaint today against the City of Burbank seeking damages and injunctive relief after the city deliberately and illegally provided his confidential personnel file to a local newspaper. ”

“The complaint discloses that the City provided Christopher Cadelago of the Burbank Leader newspaper and other members of the media and the general public confidential documents from Dunn’s official personnel file in direct violation of specific provisions of California’s constitutional privacy protections, several state laws and numerous judicial orders.”  Check out more of the press release on Carlile’s blog.

 Also, over on The Burbank Leader’s new blog, Following the Leader, Burbank City Attorney Dennis Barlow answers some questions about the confidentiality of police officers’ personnel files. Interesting reading, but I don’t think Barlow’s answers really explain the actions of the City Attorney’s Office in regards to the Dunn lawsuit.  

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95 Responses to The Burbank City Council, Falun Gong, and a new lawsuit against the city

  1. Tim R Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 7:15 pm #

    All I can say is again the City Attorney comes out with something that really no one ever asked. Maybe he reads the blogs now so he can know what’s going on in Burbank so let me try to help him grasp the questions at hand.

    First, You released documents and spent untold hours trying to convince us that that release was innocent and necessary to correct the untruths for the public. WHERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS AND WHERE IS THIS TRUTH YOU RELEASED FOR ALL OF US TO SEE AND KNOW ?

    Second, Why are you spending so much effort trying to defend what you did and making that available everyplace when what you released can’t be found ?


  2. Tim R Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 7:21 pm #

    Falun Gong, saw that when I watched the meeting today on demand at the website. We have a council that shows no response to officers claiming there is persecution and discrimination here in Burbank. The mayor sits in silence with a grin on his face and lawsuits are being filed. Did they honestly think when we have a council that shows no concern for civil rights in Burbank they would get anything other than the typical get out of her reaction from the council ?

    One thing Burbank needs more and not less of is parking. Give me a break with the things are better with less parking attitude.

  3. Nike Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 1:27 pm #

    If I were running the city I would get a new attorney, like one who knows what he is doing maybe ?

  4. BurbankWatchDog Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 1:47 pm #

    From the Complaint For Damages:

    “18. Defendant Barlow’s conduct in this regard was despicable, and intended by Barlow to cause injury to plaintiff Dunn, and was done by Barlow with a willful and conscious disregard of plaintiff’s rights, and subjected plaintiff to cruel and unjust hardship in conscious disregard of plaintiff’s rights, and was an intentional invasion of privacy, and was calculated to deprive plaintiff of property rights and legal rights, or to otherwise cause injury, such as to constitute malice, fraud, and/or oppression under Civil Code section 3294, entitling plaintiff to punitive damages in an amount appropriate to punish or set an example of defendant Barlow.”

    Mike Nolan should read this at the next Council meeting when Barlow returns from his vacation and ask the Council what they’re going to do about it. This preventable 2nd lawsuit may end up costing us much more than Dunn’s first complaint.

  5. BF Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 2:25 pm #

    Someone should let Mayor Bric and former Mayor Golonski in on the news, a split vote is terrible and shows you just don’t get along with your cohorts on the council. No votes are just plain naughty, well at least that’s what they will normally say.

    How about this split vote where former Mayor Golonski can not even get a second to his motion ?

  6. Intelligent Being Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 3:05 pm #

    Has anyone driven through this new turn lane they created on Victory Blvd ?

    The worst thing anyplace is a lane that just ends. It causes cars to shoot out of the lost lane and into the other lane. This clogs traffic mad crazy.

    Drive through there when a delivery truck is parked in this new lane. Suddenly the lane ends at the back of a delivery truck and cars shoot into the other lane and guess what ? It creates a traffic danger and nightmare.

    Do they ticket the trucks for blocking the lane ? NO. So what this comes down to is a ghost lane that may ort may not be blocked. I bet if you or I parked there to drop something off we would get a ticket for blocking traffic.

    This new lane is a nightmare and makes traffic even worse.

  7. Sandy Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 4:08 pm #

    Interesting reading about all the problems in Burbank these days. Rather predictable if you ask me. I moved out when the moving was good I guess and as for shopping I never set foot in Burbank. Just so you all get a bit of a feel for it, up and coming areas are on top of just how badly run and how much in decline the city of Burbank really is. Thought I would share a recent release so all of you in Burbank can see you really don’t go un-noticed by the rest of us.

  8. Danny Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 4:35 pm #

    I agree with so much of this especially the part about it being run by communists and facists.

  9. Carol Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 4:41 pm #

    That looks like my sidewalk infront of my home. I had to go see if there was a rotten orange in front of my house and no orange so it must be one of the other neighborhoods with unsafe sidewalks.

  10. Stretch Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 6:46 pm #

    Lately, we have been living with two sided stories because every time I hear something from the city there is another side to the coin.

    The latest example is this debate over the elimination of the park police patrol. I thought…how sad that the budget is tight and we lose a great resource.

    But now I heard that the officer who is currently the park police is the woman suing the department. Hugh? I sure hope our living standard isn’t once again paying the price for attorney fees.

  11. Johnny Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 7:19 pm #

    Stretch There was a story about the park police in the Burbank Leader and it didn’t say anything about the park police officer filing a lawsuit against the city.
    Are you telling me she is gone because she is filing a lawsuit against them to ? Why is she filing a suit ?
    This town really does eat you I guess I don’t get why the mayor just sits there like humpty dumpty and says nothing to us as residents about everything that’s going on.

  12. Johnny Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 7:22 pm #

    My comments after watching this video

    This really makes you realize how we should all get out of the peoples communist republic of Burbank. I think the baby that was cute was Burbank and these council members turned Burbank into the tart.

  13. elm Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 7:32 pm #

    Remember Jim Carlile on his blog talking about protecting our kids from the deranged people at channel 6 and city hall ? This video is saying the same thing, protect your kids from the Burbank City Government. After I read that about channel 6 I don’t let my kids watch it anymore.

  14. ERG Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 8:01 pm #

    That video sure answers what the hell is wrong with our mayor, he had a frontal labotomy, The whole time I thought he was just drinking to much!

  15. ERG Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 8:25 pm #

    Holding my breath and waiting now to hear what the City Attorney did to the park patrol officers.

  16. s Friday, July 31, 2009 at 3:46 am #

    Little s has laid low and planned to wait until the truth was brought forward about all these accusations and would gloat with Manny Rameriz. However what I have seen beginning with #7 Sandy, the comments by #8 Danny. #12 Johnny and #14 ERG, you all are sick “SOB’S”. All of you are no asset to this fine City and all can move out of the ” PEOPLES COMMUNIST REPUBLIC of BURBANK “. How come no one has reported out with the court decision that was decided by a judge in LA today about the Dunn case, I guess Carlile will play dumb and say, “What are you talking about, I wasn’t aware of what came down today”. Who ever made the video about Burbank and the Mayor, Fronnie you better think twice about allowing comments like these, thought you had more class then that, I was wrong. This whole experience has been a bad dream, sorry I ever heard and commented on this site.

  17. Larry Friday, July 31, 2009 at 10:49 am #

    This description on that BURBANK VIDEO pretty much sums it all up I guess
    “Boosters of Burbank, CA would like you to believe their town a diverse, family-oriented community offering the benefits of urban life with the quietude of the suburbs — but the truth is far different. Descend, traipse, and be horrified as you learn the awful truth of Burbank: A Rotting Orange of Infinite Despair.

    Shot on location in Burbank and North Hollywood, “Burbank: A Rotting Orange of Infinite Despair” may be the video that SAVES YOUR LIFE.
    One of the rules that has got to go in Burbank is that camera law, and there are so many more. Burbank has to many rules and laws for sure.

  18. Duck Friday, July 31, 2009 at 10:58 am #

    Now that video scares me, did you all see the guy who dies on the sidewalk it says ONE DEAD DUCK. QUACK my name is DUCK are they trying to tell me Burbank is out to get me or what lol.

    Honestly it looks to me like the NoHo Arts District is out to take all the business away from Burbank seriously with this video. Makes me wonder is the Mayors bar in North Hollywood ? Maybe the video explains why it’s there but uses a Burbank mailing address or something like that ? I wonder if they plan to run TV Spots on local cable advertising for the arts district over Burbank or something.

  19. Danny Friday, July 31, 2009 at 11:03 am #

    Sorry s is all offended by my comment about the video from North Hollywood but just take a look at how the city treats people here.

    I said I agree the place is run by communists and facists. Just think about how citizens are arrested and harassed over stupid things like taking pictures or smoking a cigarette.

    Then think about Mrs Espinossa she gets harrassed by the facist and communist rules here all the time.

    Then comes the best one, the communists take all the parking from those businesses, well maybe that is more facists but if its not one its the other. So I agree that Burbank is run by communsists and facists sorry you are so offended but its true.

  20. Tim R Friday, July 31, 2009 at 11:29 am #


    There you go again my friend, how come no one has reported out on what a judge said today in the Officer Dunn case ? Well true to form you sort of say you know something but you don’t say what happened. So if it happened in court and you know what’s the big secret ?

    Your comment – you all are sick “SOB’S”. All of you are no asset to this fine City and all can move out of the ” PEOPLES COMMUNIST REPUBLIC of BURBANK “.

    Don’t you get it ? That comment is EXACTLY what people are talking about. Like the Communist manifesto speaking you hit people with Burbank – love it or leave it now.

    Come on s people are not required to be an asset according to the central parties ideals, this is after all still a democracy with civil liberties, or is that no longer the case in Burbank ? You sort of prove the point about Burbank being under communist rule by that comment.

  21. Fronnie Friday, July 31, 2009 at 11:50 am #


    I’m always amazed at how you are so quick to slip into name calling “you all are sick SOB’S” … and at the same time putting down the comments of others. If you have facts to bring to the table “court decision that was decided by a judge in LA today”… then put them out there yourself. Go ahead add something constructive to the conversation. Don’t just complain.


    Keep in mind, these videos are mainly for entertainment and are just another way to demonstrate opinions.

    Communists and facists running Burbank? Well, that I believe is an extreme, folks. All you have to do is to look at the way the Chinese are persecuting the Falun Gong devotees.

    Also, I’ve been following the South Victory Parking dispute and the city is trying to work out the problem. Do you really think the communists in China would bother with such a problem.

    A lot of us do not agree with some of the latest decisions in Burbank city government and that’s okay. However, I don’t think calling decision makers in Burbank communists or facists is accurate or productive.

    I know it’s hard to try to figure out what city officials are doing when their actions and words are so confusing.

  22. Reese Friday, July 31, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    Watched the video and have to say that it is I guess suppose to be thought provoking and spur on discussion even if it may be a little shocking.

    We really have some problems here in Beautiful Downtown Burbank in my opinion. Yes it seems we have a very divided and very unhappy police department and very disturbing claims coming from within the department and if that were not bad enough we have other growing problems as well.

    Clearly we have officials who are agenda driven and the agenda more and more looks to me like it is filled with shades of various ‘isms’. Think about it, what agenda could conclude that removing all the paking from a business could possibly be a good thing ? Just how could that ever happen in the first place ?

    We have officials who believe only they know what’s best for us and they more and more seem to dismiss and even punish those who don’t see things their way. In all honesty there are just to many claims that this is what they do, not just from our police officers but from average citizens like baseball coaches and even camera men as the list goes on and on.

    Is it as bad as Communist China yet ? I would say no but maybe the film reminds us that Communist China and Communist Cuba were not built in a day, they evolved slowly just like the reign of the Nazi elite did in Germany. One step at a time and always with that ‘trust us we know what’s best attitude’ which only gave the elite more and more power to do evil.

    Maybe we take this film as something to think about and question where we are heading right now as a city.

  23. Fronnie Friday, July 31, 2009 at 12:26 pm #


    Good points.

  24. Red Ant Friday, July 31, 2009 at 12:33 pm #

    Quick comment

    If I hear conserve water or electric one more time from these naboobs while they build more ugly buildings I will scream.

  25. Ryanscyberlife Friday, July 31, 2009 at 12:38 pm #

    Agenda driven and their agenda is costing us way too much money and misery.

    Here is the problem, it’s 2009 and Burbank under their leadership is blooming with one thing and one thing only, civil rights claims.

    Is their agenda taking us forward or taking us backward in time ?

  26. Black Dragon Friday, July 31, 2009 at 12:51 pm #


  27. Steve Friday, July 31, 2009 at 1:18 pm #

    “Communists and facists running Burbank? Well, that I believe is an extreme, folks. All you have to do is to look at the way the Chinese are persecuting the Falun Gong devotees.”

    Thinking about this the reality is I don’t live in China I live in Burbank. If we have descrimination and all that here my feeling is we really need to clean up our own front yard before we have the time to try to clean up China. It really bothers me that even our cops say we have racism in Burbank.

  28. Eileen C Friday, July 31, 2009 at 1:42 pm #

    Fronnie Lewis;

    This must be the kindest way of saying a group of people just doesn’t know what they are doing I have ever read. “I know it’s hard to try to figure out what city officials are doing when their actions and words are so confusing.”

    I admit it really fascinate how in these economic times andy group of sane people could take the parking away from any business. Is it that there is a hidden agenda behind this move or is it just that out of touch with the times and thoughtless.

  29. Doberman Friday, July 31, 2009 at 2:44 pm #

    You know s reminds me of a little kid, I know something you don’t know and I won’t tell you about it. Problem is for s so far I haven’t seen anything from s except snipes. So where’s the beef s ?

  30. Doberman Friday, July 31, 2009 at 2:48 pm #

    Someone told me today that the top paid employees don’t waste their time attending council meetings anymore. Before anyone jumps and screams I don’t know if it’s true it’s just what someone said. Unlike s I thought I would throw out what I heard to see if anyone else know what’s up with this.

    This gets better, according to the person the reason is the high paid employees learn nothing by listening to the council and they don’t need the councils feedback to know what they plan to do anyway.

    If true this could mean the council is beyond inefective it has no control of what happens at all anymore. If that’s true just who is running everything these days in Burbank.

  31. BF Friday, July 31, 2009 at 3:33 pm #

    Speaking about Communist China don’t forget the salient point made by Mr Nolan this past week about the ‘RULES’ in Burbank and how they are applied differently to different people.

  32. sm_tena Friday, July 31, 2009 at 3:55 pm #

    The comments about Communist China just puzzled me watching the meeting this week.

    I agree that Communist China is a terrible and an oppresive government but the people who spoke never addressed anything that we don’t already know about that government. I was confused what they really even wanted because I never heard them call for a boycot of goods from China.

    Now don’t say I am heartless and not concerned because that is just not true, but we have been borrowing billions of dollars from the Communist Chinese Government and have never been more tied to them. While I think all of that is very bad its a fact of life. Look in our stores almost everything is from Communist China which I believe supports a bad government there and robs jobs from Americans here.

    I was not clear what the bill in congress they talked about was, but if you ask me it should be to stop bringing goods from China and to stop borrowing money from China because like it or not our government is supporting the Communist government of China.

  33. sm_tena Friday, July 31, 2009 at 4:01 pm #

    I am going to give you all the link but here is an important excerpt about our trade with Communist China that is why I feel the way I do. What we have done since 1992 is lose American jobs to support a terrible communist government. Congress needs to start taking care of Americans is what I believe. This excerpt is from Congressman Joe Baca’s website and no wonder unemployment is so bad these days.

    “According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, 3 million Americans jobs have been lost since 1992 due to increasing trade deficits. In 1999, the U.S. experienced the highest trade deficit ever, $304 billion. The U.S. International Trade Commission has estimated that the China trade deal could result in the loss of nearly 880,000 American jobs over the next decade.”

  34. Flippification Friday, July 31, 2009 at 4:05 pm #

    I love Mike Nolan. Thanks 4 the link to what he said.

    I hear you tena the people upset with China should go after the money, come back and demand to know how much of what Burbank buys comes from China and ask for a council move to ban the purchase of products made in China when the city buys anything at all.

  35. Stretch Friday, July 31, 2009 at 4:48 pm #

    I was interested in what little “s” said about a court ruling. So I did some checking. Turns out it wasn’t what “s” is misleading people to believe. The court proceeding was for a “restraining order” against the city attorney for leaking documents.

    The judge did not grant the order because it would effectively remove the city attorney’s office from the case, Barlow included. The judge did not rule on if the conduct was illegal. Barlow just has more chances to break the law.

    “s” Good try, but usual garbage.

  36. Flippification Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:11 pm #

    Stretch you have to let s get his excitement over the little things, afterall that’s all he has these days is the little things. Maybe right now he is out smelling the flowers before they die from a lack of water and become just a memory.

  37. Member of the sag Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:15 pm #

    s busts me up with all the insinuations that have no foundations. s never really says anything concrete just so s can always come back and say see I was right. It busts me up, it’s easy to be right when you never say anything at all LMAO

  38. Member of the sag Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:29 pm #

    I want to ask a favor of everyone who lives here in Burbank. Go get your Water and Electric bill.

    Mine shows me I used 17 hcf last year on this bill and cut my use to 14hcf this year on the bill for the same month.

    Now that’s great for conservation right ? So why is my bill only 4.00 less than last year if I used 3 HCF less than last year ? I should have a much lower bill right ?

    There is some trick going on with these bills because if you cut back you barely notice it. Anybody else who reduced use find some big savings or are you all like me, using less water and still ripped off when you write the checl ?

  39. Ann Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:33 pm #

    My bill is about the same I used less water but my bill is about the same as last year. I think what they did was raise the price and then tell you that if you conserve you save money but that’s just because what you used last year costs you more this year.

    Why don’t we all get the recycled water to use in our yards ? It bugs me that developments run water like crazy and then say poh we have recycled so its ok. I bet we paid for them to get recycled water and we don’t get any 🙁

  40. Ann Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:34 pm #


    Just to let you know I really skip right past what s writes due to the use of porane name calling. Thank you for just sticking to the facts stretch.

  41. Buzzie9 Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:37 pm #

    I try not to look at my water bill I am way overcharged and they keep raising the prices on it. What’s really bad is the trash fees we get no benifit from that recycle program they run at all.

  42. Jake F Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:44 pm #

    Ok so much for the first ladies veggie garden seems the Clintons took care of it for her, I suggest she not eat any of it or feed it to any small children.

  43. Flippification Friday, July 31, 2009 at 5:46 pm #

    Sludge in the garden ? I think they already ate some of it, that’s disgusting!

  44. Burbank Lifer Friday, July 31, 2009 at 6:26 pm #

    Yes of course we all paid for the chosen few to have and to old all the recycled water they could ever desire. We also paid for the water, paid the sewer charge to get it to the recycle plant and then we paid to recycle it. Do we get any price break or benifit after we pay all that, nah we just get a higher bill and told to use less.

  45. Burbank Lifer Friday, July 31, 2009 at 6:28 pm #

    On what you said Stretch, no doubt whatever s is jumping up and down about is minor because cases are not resolved in days or even weeks despite what s would have us believe.

  46. s Friday, July 31, 2009 at 8:38 pm #

    Fronnie: Thank you for your comment in #21. My comments about the video were out of frustration. I don’t agree that the videos are merely for entertainment, that is my opinion, I respect yours. Since I’m not an attorney maybe Mr. Carlile could go into more detail about the recent court ruling in regards to the Dunn case. Sure sounds like the Burbank City Attorneys were not out of line about their comments and what ever the name of the ruling is, the City should be reimbursed for our expenses defending the City.

  47. Jim Carlile Friday, July 31, 2009 at 10:41 pm #

    I suspect that what the judge did today in the Dunn case was to just turn down immediate injunctive relief. That was a request from his attorneys and was a longshot anyway, if not a mere formal request, because it would effectively mean that the city attorney’s office couldn’t do or say anything from now on.

    Plus, they were not continuing the behavior, so there was really nothing to stifle any more.

    Wonder who ‘s is to get this kind of immediate info? Hmm. But his sources– whoever they are– are playing him for the fool.

  48. Tim R Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 11:40 am #

    Yup s should check his sources for sure. The fact the city attorney corrected the untruths but made no corrections available tells me they did a NO NO.

  49. Flippification Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 3:10 pm #

    Sounds to me like the city attorney is the captain of the ship names SS BURBANK. Question is will he go down with his ship or just let it wreck while he rows off to retirement in his life boat.

  50. Jon Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 4:49 pm #

    “Sure sounds like the Burbank City Attorneys were not out of line about their comments and what ever the name of the ruling is, the City should be reimbursed for our expenses defending the City.”

    with a comment like that no disclaimer about not been an attorney needed and don’t slip your pointed I told you so hat on yet or you will get told to go face the corner for a very long time out.

    Some people just twist everything and anything to be able to see in it what they want rather than acceoepting things for what they are.

    Oh and I am sure the legal fees on this immediate relief filing for restraint must have been the biggest legal bill the city has seen in decades, yeah right!

  51. Jon Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 4:50 pm #

    Flippification you may really be onto something about that row boat of retirement. Rats usually do leave the ship before it sinks.

  52. Jake Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 8:01 pm #

    This more or less says it all, so what’s with all the misleading facts from s anyway ?

  53. Jake Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 8:03 pm #

    This one makes me wonder where did they get this city attorney from anyway ? Maybe some central american country where he used to be attorney general or something for some third rate dictator ?

  54. s Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 10:39 pm #

    Sorry Jim. know one is playing me for a fool. If the tables were turned different and the judge would have ruled in favor of the plantiff’s, you would have had a field day, and wrote how ” I TOLD YOU SO “. Color it any way you want. the City did and will prevail. For your sake and everyone else that is out to crucify the City, hope your all right, Fronnie might be out of biz once the truth is revealed. Lovely weekend to all.

  55. Stretch Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 11:13 pm #

    So what is “s” saying, the racists will prevail? How does he know the evidence? “s” tell your buddy Mayor Brick to stop getting you to go on to the blogs and call people names, ignore facts, and argue just to argue.

    You are doing more harm to the city’s mis information campaign than good. There are concerned voting citizens on here and we will not fall for the banana in the tailpipe!

  56. Jim Carlile Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 11:26 pm #

    Hey ‘s, do you have any more inside information on Detective Dunn? I’d like to hear what you know– tell us what you think the real story is, or at least what people in the city are telling you about him.

  57. s Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 11:30 pm #

    My Dearest Stretch: Sorry to see your panties are in a wad. “Concerned Voting Citizens”. Know I know how the Berlins picked up those twenty or thirty extra votes in the general election of 2007. Hang in there you will prevail. The racists are those that produced the video, trust you didn’t hurt yourself falling on the sidewalk. Love ya. Hay Manny, come out of retirement, stretch is having a bad day, probably needs your insight.

  58. s Saturday, August 1, 2009 at 11:37 pm #

    Mr. Carlile: Never met Dunn, didn’t even know he was a detective. Your the one with all the connections, must be that GPD you get all your info from. Seems like your expert on everything where you getting all your info from ???????????????????. xoxo

  59. V Sanos Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 11:38 am #

    s you are running yourself around in circles. I know it must be very hard for you to understand that all the turmoil spinning around city hall is happening, but you just can’t spin it like there are just a few people making acusations, and that’s what has you running like a mad person in a circle round and round.

    You love sweeping generalizations, my personal favorite is ‘people trying to cruicify the city’. Do you ever even consider that just maybe some people at city hall have really made some mistakes, and maybe some of them have been big ?

    This city and it’s leadership have got to stop the defend at all costs attitude, it’s gone on for years and it’s really old and tired. Some of their mistakes really can not be defended so why waste the time trying.

    Just think about it s, here are a few recent attitudes you have shown, and they are identical to Burbank City Hall. Again my favorite was when you wrote here the guy who dared to film at Bob’s was shown in a cartoon with a big camera, see he is guilty just look at the cartoon. Remember the cat and your comment the cat owners got what they deserved, they didn’t chip the cat ?

    Sometimes s you show so much frustration that anyone could even dare to ask a question about the city, it really does show you to be more than defensive, it shows you to be personaly defensive as if you were personally part of the mistake that was made and that you are desperate to defend yourself because you just can’t ever admit you made a mistake. Before you have a heart attack s, get over it and understand that everything in Burbank is not about you, despite what you may think you really are not that important to most of us.

  60. Tim R Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 11:41 am #


    It sounds to you like s knows evidence? nah don’t think so, s reminds me of that old saying a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. What s has is public relations lingo, so just who passes the press statements off to s anyway or does he write the press releases ?

  61. Tim R Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 11:45 am #

    so s,

    You didn’t know Detective Dunn was a Detective and that means something about Jim Carlile ? Man did you lose me on that comment dude. If you read the newspapers the day the lawsuit was filed they all said Detective Dunn in the bios they gave on him so where were you at ? Right here on this blog if you read the story it’s Detective Dunn
    Maybe try keeping up there s, your sources don’t really seem to let you in on what everyone in the public already knows about. Maybe take a look at more than the cartoons ok dude ?

  62. Arfie1 Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 12:01 pm #

    Every where I go I hear people talking about Burbank and people keep saying there are lots more lawsuits coming. Some people were saying they think the Mayor and all of them already know more people who are suing than we even know about yet. Then people say to me the Mayor and them are putting money together to pay those people off so they keep quiet. To me it means lots of people are getting really pissed off about how Bubank treats people. But why would they even try to pay people off unless the people are right about what they are saying.

  63. BF Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 1:06 pm #

    Just keep in mind the corruption in public officials right here in good old California is so bad even President Obama is talking about it now. Courts in California really anymore turtsowrthy than the officials are ? YOU decide

  64. Tim R Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 1:10 pm #

    President Obama should cut a cd of this speech and send it to each member of the Burbank City Council. The parts about public service does not mean bringing your friends to power and just because you can keep something secret does not mean you should do so are great quotes and the Mayor should take them to heart right about now.

  65. Donna Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 1:20 pm #

    I had not seen that of the President before however I did see a news story on television that he is making small town corruption and lack of transparency a major issue in his administration.

    After I watched that I clipped all the recent news articles and sent them off to the President so he would be able to see our problems here with these same issues. I think I did that a week or so ago, no answer yet but if I get one I will let you all know.

  66. Danny Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 1:26 pm #

    For my friend s a lil poem

    Once was a time when only Mrs Espinossa would say there were problems in Burbank this day

    Now no matter where you go
    they talk about more than the local show

    Once just a whisper
    now the stories are like a blister

    Everyone knows that Burbank no longer
    glows and grows
    it never snows but the stories grow stronger
    and the time is about to bloom
    don’t dispair change is on the way
    and freedom will one day again ring

    I think Fronnie Lewis and Jim Carlile write better than me but luv luv I dedicated a poem to s

  67. Stretch Sunday, August 2, 2009 at 10:21 pm #

    I sure like Barlows comment at the end of this one! v=UXcOH0489KQ&feature=related

  68. s Monday, August 3, 2009 at 12:44 am #

    Danny, the poem is a tear jerker, not you. Better learn to spell Espinoza’s name, because their tough on grammer on this blog. I’m sure none of you critic’s attended the Fab Four Concert at the Starlight Bowl tonight, you missed a great time but I’m sure you would have found something to compain about. Peace and dreams to all.

  69. Fronnie Monday, August 3, 2009 at 12:58 am #


    Good night to you as well.

  70. Ann Monday, August 3, 2009 at 11:47 am #

    Stretch while I want to see what the video is that link won’t work can you correct the link so everyone could see it ?

  71. Danny Monday, August 3, 2009 at 12:53 pm #

    See any rattle snakes at the Starlight Bowl ? The place is infested with them this time of year.

  72. Cool Chick Monday, August 3, 2009 at 2:03 pm #

    Well I guess if your doing ok on the economic side of it all a night out at the bowl is just great but for some of us watching our $$$ trying not to lose the house or not wanting to go hungry, money for the concert is out of the question. So get a grip s I for one even let the cable TV go along with a few other things in life.

    If the concert is a city event why isn’t it free for the public in the first place ????

  73. Doberman Monday, August 3, 2009 at 2:09 pm #

    Hey Cool Chick if you made the concerts free you might have to sit next to undesireables right ? What would keep the undesireables out if it was free. Just look at what they spend on the fireworks. You have to be one of the cash in hand crowd to be in the bowl and the rest of the undesirables they can watch from a distance while the elite gather. Think about the structure of it all Cool Chick.

  74. Arman Monday, August 3, 2009 at 2:17 pm #

    Is this from Burbank TV 6 ?

  75. Donna Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 1:00 pm #

    This is terrible about the poor cat. They were not very sincere in their promise to return the cat that’s for sure. I just read this story TERRIBLE!! tHE MAYOR SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

    August 4, 2009

    Kitty Pants, MIA
    It’s fascinating that just a few weeks after we proposed the idea that “Kitty Pants” wasn’t anywhere near Burbank, all of a sudden the city is claiming that they can’t find ‘hide nor hair’ of this fabled cat’s new owners.
    According to the Shelter, the adopted family suddenly moved out of town and cannot be located at all, so the Kitty Pants saga has apparently reached its sad end.
    Sorry, we don’t buy this tale one bit.
    First of all, there’s no way that a family would suddenly disappear from the face of the earth just because someone else was in pursuit of an animal shelter cat they couldn’t have. That’s just too corny.
    So you know what we think? That we were right all along.
    There ain’t no new “family” that fell in love with this so-called adoption error, nobody suddenly disappeared for real, and worse, this is all an official cover story to hide the fact that Kitty Pants was wrongly sold to an outsider who could make big bucks on the breed.
    You know why we think this? Number one, it’s the only explanation that makes sense. The claim that the City of Burbank with all of its resources cannot find these new owners anywhere is just ridiculous.
    A police department can find anyone they want to, if they want to– they don’t need forwarding addresses like the rest of us.
    A question we’ll ask again: did anyone ever see Kitty Pants in their new home? For very long? When exactly was that? And when was the last time they were seen?
    Frankly, would you believe anything you hear coming out of city hall these days? This fishy new story provides a little-too-convenient closure to what was either an embarrassing screw up, or a deliberate under-the-counter sale of a valuable animal.

  76. Ann Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 3:06 pm #

    It does appear they sold the cat and made up a story to cover up what they did and I really would not put it past them.

  77. Don Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 4:23 pm #

    Never did think they told the true story on the cat. When they said they would get the cat back I felt they were liars and already knew the cat was sold off and long gone. They lie and lie.

  78. Stretch Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 4:47 pm #

    Reinke said she was going to help Kitty Pants!!! Is anybody seeing a pattern here. One minute it is “we will help”, the next it is Kitty Pants who?

    No wonder the cops are complaining about the city management. If they are in trouble, who will help?

    Oh and “s” what is Brick saying about the release of the informant information by the city attorney. Are they trying to get someone killed now? A drug dealer is now going to cost the taxpayers a million because our city attorney’s are corrupt?

    In the words of Mike Nolan “Trip the light fantastic!!”

  79. Tandrellos Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 8:00 pm #

    With so many hands in such a small cookie jar here in Burbank it’s only a matter of time before some people get caught. Everything is one big cover-up and they really don’t seem to be able to show honesty about anything at all. As voters we have got to wake up and start pikcing some people with moral backbone when we vote because these twinkies we have sitting at city hall right now are just that twinkies and cream puffs and they and their high priced experts really do need to go.

  80. Tandrellos Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 8:02 pm #

    I stopped watching council meetings on tv6 becuase I want to vomit watching the cadre of high priced misfits that come forward and advise the council on everything. They seem to call it a staff report while I would call it a cadry of misfits who could not survive if they had to find a real job.

  81. stretch Tuesday, August 4, 2009 at 11:48 pm #

    Is anyone reading this and losing thier minds like me?

    What in the H E double chopsticks is Barlow and The Mayor doing about this crap. This city will be broke after this is done.

  82. Tim R Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 10:25 am #

    Didn’t see this until I clicked the link above. Don’t think I am losing my mind about it, infact nothing about it surprises me at all.

    The cabal in power throws the people they use under busses all the time. Being one of their supporters is, and always has been, a very dangerous thing because they like to use and then abuse the very people who help them out, just to make sure those people don’t suddenly decide they are important. In a twisted way what they do makes sense. See if youw ould sell out and support them they know you could sell out and let out what they do so you must be contained and destroyed. There is no honor among thieves.

    Something tells me kitty pants was a city hall supporter and look what happened to kitty pants.
    It may have been a mistake spilling the beans but the money is on they did it on purpose just to prove they have unlimited and uncontolled power, because they think they do.

  83. Burbank Lifer Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 12:23 pm #

    There is really nothing new in any of what’s going on right now, the difference is the lights are on and they are no longer doing what they do in the darkness of night.

    Truth be told we have people running the city who only care about one thing and that is there own ego and power.

    They could care less what harm they do to people or what it costs all of us to exert and defend their power. People seem to think the mayor should do something but hey when he is so into his own ego what do you expect him to do except show off and brag about himself.

    You know how it goes, power corrupts and we have lots of corruption.

  84. Bamboo Blue Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 1:13 pm #

    The rumors keep spreading about Burbank Cops being suspended. No where does anyone say anything about that at all but the rumors are all over town about it. How come the city attorney doesn’t tell us who is suspended and under investigation the rumors are every place already and it looks bad they don’t say anything official about it. In Los Angeles they are always on the news saying what is going on when this happens.

  85. BF Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 1:44 pm #

    The Mayor or Burbank has been a busy boy, planting phony grass, so don’t expect him to bother with any of these insignificant issues like who is going to court to sue the city, after all phony grass and rubber duckies are what’s really important.

  86. Ann Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 1:49 pm #

    Why the chose artificial grass over real grass I will never understand. The benifit of playing outside is all the oxygen that comes up from the fresh growing grass and plastic makes toxic fumes especially when it is heated this can not be at all healthy and I would not allow my children to play on it.

  87. Danny Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 1:57 pm #

    That plastic grass might be ok at night but in the afternoon it will be so hot kids will pass out from heat strokes. Serious people hot plastic is not what you want to be surrounded by in the sun.

  88. BF Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 2:47 pm #

    Proof from Burbank City Hall that life is better with PLASTIC

  89. Eugene Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 2:56 pm #

    Government nuts usually say plastic is bad for the environment. Didn’t they want to banish plastic bags ? Why is plastic grass good for the environment. Such a bunch of hypocrites. Plastic used in schools teaches kids plastic is ok for the environment so which is it, is it good or bad. Was this grass or the plastic they made it from made in China and shipped here or what ? Do they understand processing plastic creates heavy toxic air polutants ? What hypocrites.

  90. DOBERMAN Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 3:02 pm #

    Living better with plastic lol, they wasted lots of money on this when they could have brought in real grass. The plastic stuff is for indoor play in eastern states where it snows most of the year and not for California where the selling point is you can play outdoors year long. Somebody sold them another worthless bridge on this one.

  91. ERG Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 3:09 pm #

    Carlile is on to something about the programing being so morbid on the Burbank channel 6 it’s like it is designed to make people suicidal. Must be some grand plan to control people, depress them to the point of obedience or something. They oughta knock it off before they get sued for causing depression.

  92. Reese Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 3:31 pm #

    Plastic grass is moronic and telling us it will do something for us proves they are morons.

  93. Johnny Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 3:51 pm #

    Everything I see about this grass project makes me think some one has an uncle or something in the plastic bizz. The whole thing doesn’t make any sense at all so why would they do this to the fields and to the kids ?

  94. the June Bug Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 3:55 pm #

    So read this from another blod. According to what this says they need to use water on this plastic grass to keep it cool. I wonder if Councilman Golonski will tell the school they can’t waste water on plastic grass when real grass is drying up all over Burbank from a lack of water. Can the city council really be this stupid ?

  95. Eileen Wednesday, August 5, 2009 at 6:17 pm #

    The mayor should be embarassed to attent an official function as mayor dressed that way. I believe he went as mayor from that film and as mayor he should dress appropriately.

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